The East and the South of the Ukraine are sick and tired of subsidizing Western regions of the country by contributing more than 70% of the budgetary income. All sea ports, mines, steel plants, machine building plants, aviation and space industries are in the East and in the South. All day today people in those regions (90% Russian speaking) rallied for autonomy and even for joining Russia. This scenario is totally spontaneous and is not welcome by President Putin. But things can really get out of control.
A libertarian returns to Scotland
"Freedom and Whisky gang thegither"
- Robert Burns
Tuesday, 30 November 2004
Another perspective
Last week I was hoping for the best for the people of Ukraine. That still stands of course but it's interesting to read this article that looks at the situation from the point of view of those who have been portrayed as the "bad guys":
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Neil Craig
There was a policeman killed during the poll in a province which no party controlled. Google news shows no further reports of this.
At the time I said I thought more likely than otherwise that he was killed by anti-government forces & the lack of reports since then have not changed my mind.
19 December 2004, 20:22:49 GMT
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Stuart
I am quite impressed by the Ukrainians. Emotions are clearly running high, and yet there have been no reports of violence. Quite a praise-worthy feat.
6 December 2004, 10:06:08 GMT
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rebbiker
Dickson misunderstands as usual. This is not about happiness, it is about freedom.David Farrer has never banned anyone with a worthwhile contribution to make.Quit whining like a goddam queer.
6 December 2004, 03:39:29 GMT
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Stuart
David
Are you happy to publish racist material from rebbiker et al?
5 December 2004, 20:05:31 GMT
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rebbiker
I am afraid that by publishing 'wigger Dickson'you have provided a few laughs for those of us who know that if multi-culturalism and diversity were any good, we would want more of the same. White flight everywhere proves we dont.
5 December 2004, 12:54:29 GMT
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Stuart
I am afraid David that by publishing Verity's disgraceful Comments you have attracted the attention of white supremacists.
5 December 2004, 12:37:54 GMT
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rebbiker
Sometimes countries cant split so easily. The failure of 'diversity' and 'multiculturalism' in PNG (around 700 different ethnic groups and dialects) should be no surprise to race realists and necessitated the arrival of Whites(Australian police) to try to establish order.
5 December 2004, 04:28:01 GMT
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Neil Craig
There is something to that. I always feel it is a sign of failure for peoples to be unable to live together (hence my position in Scotland) but if they can't an equitable split is better. Looking at who won what it divides very closely to medieval Polish Ukraine V Russian/Turkish Ukraine.
However if this split has been caused by western funding of "our" side we have a lot to answer for.
2 December 2004, 20:56:50 GMT
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Geoff Matthews
In this case, I think that succession should be a valid option on the table. It worked for the former Checkoslovakia, Canada would be much more pleasant if Quebec made good on it, and really, what is so sacrosanct about the entity of Ukraine (or any nation for that matter)? If a sizable portion of the population in a uniform geographical area want to break off peacefully, by all means let them.
1 December 2004, 04:45:11 GMT
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Neil Craig
My position here is clear so I can reasonably be accused of bias but I found the offer by Yanukovich that both of them step down & rerun the election with a presuamably less divisive candidate to be pretty creditable.
Yevshchenko's threats to punish eastern leaders demanding autonomy if he got power, on the other hand, seems to be stoking the fire.
30 November 2004, 19:39:02 GMT
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