Tuesday 14 December 2004

The Conservative Party - RIP

So, they've finally committed suicide:
The shadow cabinet revealed its support ahead of next week's Commons vote on a bill to introduce compulsory ID.
By an exquisite piece of timing I shall be able to confront the leader of the Scottish Tories at a meeting that he will be addressing this evening.

Like many libertarians I have despaired of the Conservatives for so long but remained a reluctant voter in the absence of any alternative. No longer: I've joined the 1952 Committee.

2 comments:

David Farrer said...

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Stuart
Very good. 
 
I'm gonna have to start using that spellchecker. Are you in the OED?

20 December 2004, 15:41:53 GMT
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David Farrer
How about: 
 
FARRAR 
David 
 
Libertarian 
 
Clear, concise, honest, and deliciously doomed to failure. 
 
But it wouldn't be honest because it's spelled FARRER (with an "E")!

20 December 2004, 10:57:13 GMT
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Stuart
Well, it would not get my vote. 
 
If you do decide to stand could I request that you do not go down the dishonourable "Independent" route. It is the most dishonest label in politics, and there are plenty of examples, as you pointed out in a recent article. 
 
At the very least you must include the word "libertarian", surely? Or are you too ashamed to profess your convictions? 
 
How about: 
 
FARRAR 
David 
 
Libertarian 
 
Clear, concise, honest, and deliciously doomed to failure. 
 
-"libertarians are anti-politicians" 
This of course explains why your wacky ideas never get implemented. If you are so "anti-politics" how do you explain away the actively campaigning Libertarian Party in the USA?

20 December 2004, 07:29:49 GMT
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David Farrer
I should of course add that libertarians are anti-politicians.

18 December 2004, 10:34:31 GMT
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David Farrer
How about one saying: 
 
FARRER 
David? 
 
(Somewhere yesterday I read about an election-time sticker on the London Underground: "Use your cross wisely; crucify a politician!")

18 December 2004, 10:32:22 GMT
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Stuart
A Ballot Paper reading: 
 
FARRAR 
David 
 
Scottish "Libertarian" Party (S"L"P) 
 
is unlikely to attract many crosses!

18 December 2004, 10:15:51 GMT
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David Farrer said...






Stuart
No.

18 December 2004, 10:12:16 GMT
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David Farrer
When can we expect the inaugural meeting of the Scottish Libertarian Party? 
 
Stuart has used the L word without putting it in quotation marks. Is he coming round to the true faith?

18 December 2004, 09:47:07 GMT
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rebbiker
The leftist indoctrinologists responsible for educating lemmings like Dickson usually require their dupes to be in nominal possession of the capacity for abstract thought.I stand four-square behind their decision to grant an obvious but necessary exception to this rule.

18 December 2004, 09:38:15 GMT
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Stuart
Neil 
If you are so opposed to ID cards why did you leave the LibDems, the only Unionist party to oppose them? 
 
I would like to invite you to vote SNP, as the SNP and Plaid Cymru have been the most consistent opponents of the ID card scheme. But I realise that you do not support independence, so it begs the question: who are you going to vote for?

18 December 2004, 09:24:05 GMT
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Stuart
The Conservatives losing the next election is an absolute certainty as long as race-obsessed supporters like rebbiker befoul their respectable public image. 
 
I stand four-square with my fellow democrats in the Scottish Conservative & Unionist Party in their fundamental opposition to the politics of race conflict. Decent mainsteam politicians unite in opposing the far-right wherever it raises its distorted features. 
 
I genuinely sympathise with decent Conservatives who have to deal with idiots like rebbiker.

18 December 2004, 09:16:17 GMT
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Neil Craig
David 
You should find a picture of Churchill raising his fingers while holding a cigar - it would make the point about the nanny state even better. 
 
Stuart 
The fact that some Tory MPs actually care enough to fight ID cards, while Labour will do absolutely anything for the power Bliar gave them does not reflect badly (at least comparatively) on the Tories. 
 
To be fair if I thought ID cards were going to be used to cut immigration I might well support them as a least worst option - unfortunately I think the only things they will be used for is to watch us all & to look like they are doing something. In fact they are only trying to look like they are trying to look like they are doing something (from Yes Minister)

17 December 2004, 23:57:14 GMT
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rebbiker
The libertarian strand of the Conservative party will lose this one and we need to look at the root cause of this ID card requirement.When the UK was an overwhelmingly Caucasian society,ID cards were not necessary except in time of war.Now that England and England Jr(otherwise known as Scotland) have imported so many Third World pests, the hapless Brits must now forfeit some ancient freedoms.

17 December 2004, 23:47:45 GMT
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Stuart
-"...where some senior Tories argued vociferously against the move, party sources told the BBC." 
 
This is the heart of the matter: the Conservative Party are about to rip themselves apart over this issue, just as they did over Europe. Many of us are going to enjoy the spectacle tremendously.

17 December 2004, 11:47:03 GMT
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rebbiker
When can we expect Dickson, the SNP's pre-eminent drivel generator, to make sense?

17 December 2004, 10:44:50 GMT